Recently I had to go through the motions of getting a General Power of Attorney (GPA) document attested in San Francisco. I am an Indian by birth. My parents were trying to buy a house back in India for me. Since I did not want to travel to India they needed a GPA so that they can act on my behalf to sign all the documents required to buy the house. The problem however is that they needed it urgently because the seller lives in UK and wants to get all the things done quickly so he can go back.
My parents send me a GPA document that they obtained from a lawyer. This is a document that will give the power to my parents to buy the said property in the document on my behalf. The lawyer said that I will have to get the document attested at an Indian Consulate in USA. The closest one for me is in SF and I can drive there in about an hour from where I live. So I though it will be like a day's work to get all the things done.
- Complete Miscellaneous Services Application
- Attach all previous passports in original
- Photo copies of first 5 and last 2 pages of current passport
- Current passport
- Photo copy of a valid visa
- Proof of status: original green card/visa/EAD. For me it is a valid visa
- Proof of residence: Drivers License/Electricity/Water/Telephone bills/lease agreement. For me it is driver's license.
- Photo copies of proof of status and proof of residence above
- Original apostilled Power of Attorney to be attested
- Photo copy of apostilled Power of Attorney document
- Paste a photo in Miscellaneous Services Application
- Paste a photo on Power of Attorney document
- Sign Miscellaneous document
- Pay $20 for fees using money order / cachier's check or debit card ($3 extra). Debit card for me
I got everything right except for apostilling the document. I got myself photographed. Pasted one in the GPA and another on the application and drove for more than an hour in traffic to reach the SF indian consulate only to find that I need to get the GPA apostilled. I did not know what it was and how it was supposed to be done. So I just skipped the step and went to the consulate. After standing in line for an hour the lady at the counter was kind enough to walk me through the whole process. She told me that first I should get the GPA notarized by a notary public after signing the document in front of the notary. Then I should send the GPA along with self addressed envelope to Secretary of State, California to get the document apostilled. Once they send the document back to me I will have to bring the documents to Indian consulate for attestation.
Great. That is easy. But there is just one thing. I wanted to finish all this in one day. So I had some planning to do. First it takes 2 hours to drive to Sacremento from where I live. And another 2 hours from Sacremento to SF where I will get the final attestation. The consulate closes at 12 pm. While the Secretary of State opens at 8 am.
The next day I started at 6am and drove to Sacremento. It was exactly 8am by the time I was in the Secretary of State. Finding the notary public office was easy and I got the document apostilled in about 15 minutes. Then I started off to SF for another 2 hour drive. I got the apostilled document photo copied at an office max in SF. It was 10:30am before I stepped into the consulate. At this point it was just a matter of time. I was in the line for an hour and then everything flew by quickly. She took the documents and the payment and asked me to return at 4pm to pick up the documents. I drove to work at 12pm and returned back to SF at 4pm. Everything was ready for me. Took the attested documents, drove back to work and then home late in the night.
Two days and 450 miles later I have all things done! That one day was tiring with 350 miles logged. End of the day the whole process is not that complicated. I was lucky to be close to Sacremento and SF. But for others who are not so lucky it will take more time. So please make sure you have enough time.
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I thought of doing same thing as you did. Going to SF consulate w/o apostilled Power of Attorney.
Your blog saved my trip to SFO. It really helped.
Thanks!
Do you know if the GPA if created by me here and notarized could be sent to India without the Indian Consulate's attestation?
Is it a requirement in India that the GPA should be attested in the Indian Consulate? and also how did you send the GPA? By DHL or by USPS? How much does it cost?
Thanks!!!
I used FedEx and it cost around $30 I think.
Few quick questions - Does SFO Consulate mandate Apostille procedure for plain paper POA ?
Was your POA on a plain paper or Indian Stamp Paper ?
Did you follow this whole procedure as Indian citizen or US citizen ?
Appreciate quick response from your end.
Thanks
Few quick questions - Does SFO Consulate mandate Apostille procedure for plain paper POA ?
A: Yes
Was your POA on a plain paper or Indian Stamp Paper ?
A: Plain paper
Did you follow this whole procedure as Indian citizen or US citizen ?
A: Indian citizen
Hope this helps :)
Attestation by Indian Consulate is not required in every-case. It depends on the law of individual states in India, so you need to find out from your local lawyer if its required.
I have one question can i notarize the GPA and send it for Apostilled by post. i have 1 week time to get things done. cani complete it in a week by post.
You probably can send it by mail. The Secretary of State personal said the turn around time is 1 day. So everything depends on the time it takes for USPS to move the mail. Assuming it takes 2 to 3 days (to and fro included) for USPS it may be pretty tight but possible.
Sunnyvale, CA 94085
(408) 739-4400
this is near to me.
http://www.sos.ca.gov/business/notary/contact.htm
Or you can give them a call at (916) 653-3595 and find out. See more details at http://www.sos.ca.gov/contacts.htm#notary
you are right. I have planned to go tom morning to sacramento for apostilled as you said all i need for apostill is a white paper and GPA filled form. get it certified on 2nd floor on a plain paper and then apostill it. theni will travel to SFO and get it attested. please let me know if i need any other prerequisits..thanks..
For notarization and the consulate you will need a list of things that I mentioned in the blog post.
One last question. the power of attorney to be attested by the consulate should be typed on plain paper and not on a stamp paper from india. what does this mean.
second - all power of attorney should carry signatures and address of 2 witnesses. do we need this also?
A: Google is your friend. See example of stamp paper: http://www.mindpowerindia.com/images/stamp-paper.jpg. It has a Rs. X stamp on it.
second - all power of attorney should carry signatures and address of 2 witnesses. do we need this also?
A: Yes. Write address of a couple of friends or colleagues and have them sign it. They don't need to sign in front of any notary or consulate.
Will you be able to reconfirm that the signature of the two witnesses "does not need to be notarized"?
Will you be able to reconfirm that the signature of the two witnesses "does not need to be notarized"?
So the way it works is you will have to get the witness signatures and their addresses on the GPA before you get the document notarized. Then get it notarized and apostilled and attested :).
Very detailed blog. You saved my a trip to consulate.
Thanks,
Kiran
I'm in NC, and will be dealing with the Washington consulate office, but the part I was stumped by was the 'apostille' business. I was off reading the description based on the Hague convention and couldn't tell where it was pertinent and not.
@Srinivasan. You asked about creating the GPA here. Did you use a lawyer to get it written up? I think I will follow the same process.
Thanks to all for this thread. It really helped a lot.
Maybe you had to be it attested after it being apostilled b/c your parents sent the doc from India?
Welcome your thoughts as your blog post is more informative than anything I can find on the Indian consulate site. They seriously should link to your post as reference.
I am not sure if the POA written in US is valid in India. I mean when applying for loan or buying house etc. Keep posting...
Yes, I'm still in the process of discovery.
So I looked up instructions for miscellaneous services/attestation of documents on the Washington DC embassy website.
http://www.indianembassy.org/newsite/misc_guide.asp
Under 'attestation of foreign public documents' it states:
Embassy of India will not re-authenticate a public document that has been apostilled by the authorities of the country of origin.
Our situation is different from yours in that we are both US citizens. But still, the business we'd like to conduct is in India. When I spoke to the lady at the Secretary of State office, she said that if the signer (my wife) is in the US, then they can do it both ways. In other words, apostille a document from India or apostille a document that was generated here.
Google being my friend, I googled for general templates for power of attorney, found one and created my own GPA. We are going to have a lawyer in India check it, and then apostille that and send to India.
I then looked up authentication of US documents for use in India. The embassy website in New Delhi says that a document originated here can be adjudicated for use in India.
http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov/acsnotarialauth2.html
So, this is the approach I'm trying. I still have not heard from the lawyer in Kolkata, but I will keep you posted as I think it might help somebody in this situation.
Is it enough for the document to have just the signature of the person who is giving the POA? I ask because the person receiving the POA is in India.
Thanks.
Thanks for the detailed blog. We (me and my wife) have executed PoA and got it Notarized in Sunnyvale, CA on white paper and would be using it to get registration for APT done in Bangalore.
Since the PoA is single document and has both of our photos/signatures.
1) Does anyone has idea for how much amount do I need to make Cashier's Cheque for to be sent to Counsulate in SFO? Would it be $20 or $20 + $20 (for both). I 've mailed consulate, but no reply yet :(?
2) For the similar reason, for what amount do I need to send cashier's check to "Secretary of State" if I am sending it via Mail?
SoS website says
There is a $20.00 processing fee (per signature authenticated) and a $6.00 special handling fee (per public official for documents submitted over the counter)
Thanks,
KD
I am from NC and the nearest Embassy is in DC and according to them all I need would be the following as per this link:
http://www.indianembassy.org/newsite/misc_guide.asp
1. Miscellaneous Service Form filled, signed & photograph attached.
2. Residential Address Proof
3. Copies of Visa Pages
4. Passport in Original
5. Appropriate Fees
And for attestation of PoA:- Check this out from the above link
Attestation of Power of Attorney (POA) and other documents
And as Brenny quoted earlier, I also noticed this from the above link:
Attestation of foreign public documents
My Question:-
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Do I need to get my PoA Apostilled or not? I have a Rs.100 stamp paper on the PoA for the moment.
I would really appreciate if you could get back to me on this as you have always for other posts. Or if you could let me know your email id also would be great for further communcaition.
If I remember correctly, the person over at San Francisco's Indian Embassy said that the apostillation of a document is a state (california) requirement and not an Indian Embassy requirement. So your state may not have this requirement. Good luck!
I have another question:
The PoA application says the fee is $20 per signature. Which signature or rather whose signature is being referred to here? If it were the signature of the person at the Embassy - then would it become 2 signatures if I were to sed the original PoA and the notarized copy of the same???
Again I am just expecting your thoughts based on your research and experience - since that has been of great help...
Thanks a billion. I was actually planning to drive up 6.5hrs to DC to avoid confusion - but rethinking on that option again now.
Thanks for putting all this info up! Its really helpful!
At consulate we were charged again $20 as it was a single document. They asked me if we would like to have Stamp on the middle of both photos (I believe this is optional). I asked them to do so, hence they charged another $10 for the stamp.
1. Complete Miscellaneous Services Application
2. Original APOSTILLED Power of Attorney
3. Photocopy of Original apostilled Power of Attorney
4. Photo (1 on misc application and other on POA with my sign)
5. $20 Money Order
6. photocopy of Driving license attested
7. Photocopy of necessary passport pages attested
8. Photocopy of visa details attested
9. Photocopy of I-797 attested
but unfortunately that didn;t work and they sent it back to me twice.
So i e-mail them on cgisf@cgisf.org and got following reply
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You have to send the original passport and respective fees for the processing. Follow the procedure on the website sir.
For any further information please visit our webiste www.cgisf.org.
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As i mentioned earlier I already sent $20 money order which fee they are asking now??
Your Comments are highly appeciated!
I am not sure what else they want. You may want to call them up and tell them that you did everything according to the website.
Did you get the photo on POA notarized? They will change an extra $10 for each photo to be notarized on the POA.
Thanks for the details It really helps.
1. I am in LA, so would like to mail the GPA document to State Office to get notarized and apostilled.Is this OK or do i need to get it notarized locally and send it for apostill????
2. Do i need to affix a photo on the GPA document before it gets Notarized?? ... If so which page i should do that??
Thanks in advance
1. I notarized my document before getting it apostilled.
2. You should affix a photo. Affix it on the last page if there is space, otherwise stick it on a separate white page and attach that page to the GPA.
I got a notary stamp covering part of the photo. Not sure if that is needed, but the notary said he thinks that is how it should be done.
Also, photocopy of POA should be notarized.
Thanks
Q: There were about 7 pages in POA. Should I get notarization for every page in POA and apostilled.
A: You only need 1 notary on the last page and 1 apostillation
Q: Also, photocopy of POA should be notarized.
A: I did not need to because I visited the consulate. If you are mailing, you may need to. See previous comments.
I just realized that I made a typo with the POA date. But I sent it to my Montana State Secretariate for Apostillation.
Once I get back can I change the date and get it notarized before sending it to embaasy.
Thanks
Great job! This is very useful. One question - Does Indian Consulate send the POA to India or they give it back and we courier it to our family.
Thanks,
The Indian consulate will send it back to you and you will have to mail it to India.
ZJ
You have already been so generous of your time in answering so many questions that I am hesitant in asking another one. But I could not find an answer to the following:
1) The Indian consulates ask that the POA document and the *photograph* be notarized. When I went to the notary, she did not know how to notarize the photo separately. She said that the photo cannot be notarized.
The notary has asked me to choose the wordings on which I need the notary to sign. So my questions to you:
1) How did you get your "photo" notarized before getting the attestation?
2) What wordings did you use on your POA document on which the notary signed?
Thanks and Best Regards,
Sudhir
1) How did you get your "photo" notarized before getting the attestation?
A) Paste the photo on the last page of your document and then ask the notary to stamp that page in such a way that a part of the stamp overlaps the photo. That should do.
2) What wordings did you use on your POA document on which the notary signed?
A) Not sure what you mean. It is the standart GPA document that you get from indian banks or lawyers. See these links for some examples
http://docs.google.com/gview?url=http://www.odu.edu/ao/oip/studyabroad/resources/generalpowerofattorney.pdf
http://www.delafe.com/form/frmgpowr.htm
http://www.realkerala.com/form_general_power_of_attorney.htm
Thanks for your prompt response.
I should have been more clear with my second question. I was not asking for the wording about the POA document itself. I was asking about the addiitonal verbiage at the end of the document that is needed for the notary to sign. For example, one of the possible verbiage is:
"This instrument was acknowledged before me on the ____ day of ____ 2010 by ______" .
It is my understanding that by law the notary cannot choose the verbiage him/herself - that needs to be chosen by us.
Back to Question #2 in my previous mail:
What notarial verbiage was used on your POA document to get it notarized?
I hope I have made myself clear.
BTW, I live in Texas and will be going to CGI, Houston.
Warm Regards,
Sushma
Yes I understood your question. As I said in the previous comment, the 3 links have different verbiages. You can use any one (look towards the end of documents). My GPA as sent from india has the following verbiage:
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have signed, executed and delivered this Indenture of Power of Attorney, on this the ___ day of January ______ at ________________
I sent my POA on june 9th (by post). I didn't receive it back or got any news regarding the status. I tried calling them and also sent email. No replies as of now.
Generally, how many days it will take to get it back.
Thanks
Thanks for the useful post.
Can you please walk me through the process of getting a GPA Apostilled?
I have the GPA on a plain paper. How should I get it Apostilled?
Also the GPA as sent to me from India has the following verbiage at the end:
Dated at _________ this the ____ day of ______ 20____.
Is this something I have to fill? If yes, then what exact information should go in these blanks.
I am in Seattle and need to get the GPA attested from Indian Consulate In San Francisco.
Can you please help me with this? Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks,
Abhinav.
Correct me if I am wrong, the process is like
1) get a POA on a paper with 2 witnesses and a photo, get it notarized, I can go to any bank for that.
2) then either go to secretary of state and get it appositted.
3) or go to Indian embassy and get it signed or something.
Now the confusion is whether both 2 and 3 are required or only one?
I would be doing both If I lived in SF but As I live in AZ and nearest Indian consulate is in SF it will be difficult for me to go there and get it done, also I am not comfortable mailing my original passport.
Further Info found on : The Hague Convention, to which India and USA are signatories, abolishes the requirement of legalization for Foreign Public Documents. With the certification by the Hague Convention ' Apostille', the document is entitled to recognition in India and vice versa and no certification by the authentications office or legalization by Embassy of India or Consulates is required.
Which makes me believe that there is no need for step 3 if step 2 is done.
What do you say? I am confused and need some insight.
Thanks again for such a wonderful blog.
MJ
Just came back after mailing my PoA to India. It was a 12 hour thing. But your blog did save me one extra trip to SFO as I had no clue about Apostille. I retraced your steps and got everything done with no issues.
For folks who plan to take this journey, the office max is diagonally across the Indian consulate and you have Fedex Kinkos a block further.
The security guard went beyond his brief and gave instructions which were very helpful. Kudos to people like him who go above and beyond.
In the consulate, I had to go through 4 lines, one for the token, one for doc verification and one for paying the fees and then to pick up the papers.
Here my question,
1) Once i Apostille the GPA, do i need to send GPA to Indian consulate for attestation. As SFO Indian Consulate clearly mentions that
"If you are obliged to execute the Power of Attorney on a Stamp Paper from India, then please follow the
‘Apostille’ Convention. Once the ‘Apostille’ sticker is affixed to the Power of Attorney, the Consulate is not
required to authenticate the Power of Attorney again."
Please advise,
Thanks
Vishwa
First, get the POA notarized
Second, get the POA apostilled
Third, Get it attested by the consulate.
Per my understanding, we should sign the POA at the consulate. If thats correct, then what is the notary verifying?
Any help would be really appreciated...
Thanks,
Vishal
Here are some things I believe CGISF should provide better reasons for
1. Why does only CGISF require the documents to be apostilled? I checked NY, DC and Chicago Indian consulates do not require Apostilled unless POA is on Stamp Paper
2. As per Apostille convention and NY consulate there should not be any need to get the POA re-attested / notarized?
3. I can't understand why an Indian Govt. entity cannot attest a document for use in India? Apostille is needed when you don't have an Indian Govt consular for these services. If the Consulate can issue a passport then why can't it do a simple attestation.
I will send this to the consulate office as well. Not hoping to get a response but I will try.
I would greatly appreciate if anyone has a good explanation for this.
thanks in advance!
Here are some things I believe CGISF should provide better reasons for
1. Why does only CGISF require the documents to be apostilled? I checked NY, DC and Chicago Indian consulates do not require Apostilled unless POA is on Stamp Paper
2. As per Apostille convention and NY consulate there should not be any need to get the POA re-attested / notarized?
3. I can't understand why an Indian Govt. entity cannot attest a document for use in India? Apostille is needed when you don't have an Indian Govt consular for these services. If the Consulate can issue a passport then why can't it do a simple attestation.
I will send this to the consulate office as well. Not hoping to get a response but I will try.
I would greatly appreciate if anyone has a good explanation for this.
thanks in advance!
Dude, you made my life a little easy. I am also in a rush of getting the POA done, and I was confused with the whole apostille thing. I was not sure if this is required for Indian citizens too (I am an Indian citizen). I called a few services in India to inquire if I needed the apostille, but no one had a sensible answer.
Reading your post was such a big relief; now I exactly know what to do and hopefully will get it done soon.
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience..!!!!
Cheers,
Ulhas
1) Do both my wife and I have to fill up the Miscellaneous Services Application or just one?
2) If both have to fill it up, do we do that on separate forms or one form ( though there seems to be no way of filling one app. form by two people)?
3) If both have to fill separate apps, given that I am the only one who is going to the consulate in person, do I have to get my wife's app form notarized?
Would greatly appreciate the help.
Best,
Sumit
Thanks for posting your experience! Its very helpful.
I have couple of questions. Can you please help?
1) Lawyer from India has emailed me a word doc format which usually fits on India Stamp paper. The height of document is length than normal paper size. I am not sure if we need to take print outs on indian stamp paper? Or a normal size paper?
2) Also you have mentioned photo is required to be pasted on GPOA document. The format the lawyer has sent doesnt have a photo space. Would that be an issue?
Thanks!
You can attach a blank page to the end of the doc and paste your photos there. Or you can do what I did. Which is basically modify the word doc to have some empty space above your signature area.
HTH
Here is some information from High Commission of India, London (http://hcilondon.in/counslateservice1.php) on Apoistile Vs. Attestation by Indian Consulate
Attestation of Foreign Public Documents :
High Commission of India, London will not re-authenticate a public document that has been apostilled (legally attested, authenticated) by the authorities of the UK government. A document apostilled by UK Government is entitled to recognition in India and no further certification or legalization by the High Commission of India in London or its Consulates in Birmingham or Edinburgh are required. Relevant portions are contained at Article 1 of the Hague Apostille Convention, abolishing the requirement of legalization for foreign public documents in case of contracting states and are re-produced below:- more...
a) Direct Attestation of Foreign Public Documents
An Affidavit, Declaration or Power of Attorney to be used in India which has not been authenticated by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office can be attested at the Consular Counter of the High Commission. The person needs to bring the documents in original along with a photocopy, valid passport and the requisite fees directly to the Consular Counter of the High Commission. In case of Power of Attorney a photograph (s) of the executant (s) is required. The executant is to sign the documents in the presence of the Consular Officer.
Thank you so much for posting this blog , it really helped me in understanding the procedure of getting POA done.
It would really help if you can explain following point.
I did go through the links of POA who have suggested ,but I am unable to find out the exact verbiage where the attorney has to sign .There is no space provided for the signature of the attorney ,so please can you forward me the format of POA you have used.
Regards,
Sumati J
Thanks in advance...
Sanjay
One simple question though (feel free to email me or leave a response on my blog through my profile), this PoA is both my and my husband's name. Does it mean both of us need to be present in SFO or Sacramento or will one do? I think the answer will be yes, but still wanted to get your opinion.
Thanks once again.
Thank you very much...
your post helped me and my friend a lot...
We might have repeated all done by you...
But after reading your blog we have done only the next day work...
my place to Sacramento(apostille) than from there consulate india, SFO ... wait for 3-4 hours and than got the POA...
really it was helpful....
I should say No,
Because at both place for two passport is required not person
Because all this you can do by post as well but it takes long time
Yesterday when me and my frnd gone through whole procedure... I didn't entered to consulate ...
all was done by my frnd I was just waiting out side as phones and bags were not allowed I was with our cells and bags and only he went inside...
I have a question.
Could you please let me know whether the GPA needs to be signed by my parents
Thanks
Karthik
Chandan, Could you please let me know if POA format is some general format that we can just print out in a paper or it has to be sent from India. You had mentioned that you got it from India. Do you know what I have to do if I have to do everything from US(creating POA doc etc). Is there any reference that I can get online? Please help.
u hve helped soo many people.. hope to help me too. my question is that will the embassy attest a stamp paper.. coz the bank in india wants power of attorney to b on stamp paper. what do i do?
I just do not know how to thank you for the detailed notes about Apostille. I am in Sunnyvale on a short visit and had to give a POA to my brother urgently in India.I got totally confused about this 'Apostille" business. When i searched, i got your blog.I could get the Apostille done.THANKS SO MUCH.YOU ARE HELPING SO MANY INDIANS LIKE ME GOD BLESS. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.I WILL BE OF HELP IH CHENNAI, IF REQUIRED.
RAMKUMAR
regards
Sriram
Regards
Sriram
Great work from your end. Here is my question, i am giving GPA to my brother-in-law who is in India to sell one of my property. Now my GPA has been prepared notorized in CA but without a foto. So what can be done do i need to stick both my foto and my brother-in-law and get it notrazied again. Please let me know asap.
Thanks
Santhosh
Great work from your end. Here is my question, i am giving GPA to my brother-in-law who is in India to sell one of my property. Now my GPA has been prepared notorized in CA but without a foto. So what can be done do i need to stick both my foto and my brother-in-law and get it notrazied again. Please let me know asap.
Thanks
Santhosh
Great work from your end. Here is my question, i am giving GPA to my brother-in-law who is in India to sell one of my property. Now my GPA has been prepared notorized in CA but without a foto. So what can be done do i need to stick both my foto and my brother-in-law and get it notrazied again. Please let me know asap.
Thanks
Santhosh
This blog post was a narration of my personal experience.
Disclaimer: I do not work for Indian Consulate, nor am I a lawyer. So I do not know what needs to be done in your case.
Please refer to the indian cosulate website for details. You might be able to attach your photo on a white paper and get it attested. Once you have succeeded, please write a blog of your experience or post a comment here, so that others in your situation can also benefit.
Thanks!
You didn't mention whether to notarize just the miscellaneous form or both misc form as well as photo on GPA before sending everything to Sacramento for apositlle?
Do we need to pay $10 separately for these notaries?
Thanks!
Do we need to pay $10 separately for these notaries?"
Unknown, you just need to send the Power of Attorney document notarized for apostille. The Misc Form, etc need to done for the attestation from Indian Embassy (after the apostille is completed). Since the notaries are not notarize the photo, it is be done at the Indian embassy, $10 for each photo. Hope it helps.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
1. Print General power of attorney on plain paper. Affix photo on last page just before the signature & get this document notarized by public notary.
Now, do I need to notarize both document & photo (with notary partially on it). If so, where should we put the notary stamp for document? And do we need to pay $10 + $10 (Total $20) for this notary?
2. Send this notarized doc to Sacramento for Apostille. Pay another $20.
3. Once you received it, submit this apostilled GPA & Misc form to Indian Embassy.
Now, do I need to notarize photo on Misc form in Indian Embassy & pay another $10 there?
Also, does 2 witness need to be present in front of public notary?
Appreciate your response.
Thanks!
There is a special requirement on CGISF site about "A photograph of the Executor of the Power of Attorney has to be pasted on the Power of Attorney and notarized" (I assume the person whom we are giving the rights). How did you go about this?
Rahul
Rahul
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Rahul, the executor is the person granting the Power of attorney, that is you..
1. Print General power of attorney on plain paper. Affix photo on last page just before the signature & get this document notarized by public notary.
Now, do I need to notarize both document & photo (with notary partially on it). If so, where should we put the notary stamp for document? And do we need to pay $10 + $10 (Total $20) for this notary?
[MALI] I was specifically told by the Notary that they are not supposed to notarize the photo. That is the reason I believe CGISF provides the option.
2. Send this notarized doc to Sacramento for Apostille. Pay another $20.
3. Once you received it, submit this apostilled GPA & Misc form to Indian Embassy.
Now, do I need to notarize photo on Misc form in Indian Embassy & pay another $10 there?
[Mali] Photo is notarized only at the Indian Embassy.
Also, does 2 witness need to be present in front of public notary?
[Mali] Notaries validate only your signature, but still it depends on the notary.. I had my witnesses sign in front of the notary just to be on the safer side.
My notary was http://nathannotary.com/
He can notarize at your door steps
Hope it helps.
Thanks!
Good that you got it done in US. If u try attesting it in india, you will know how many days and extra money it requires ;)
Am struggling since so many days and not everyone is aware of the process.
I am glad I found your post and I am almost in similar situation as yours.
Couple of Question:
Does one has to use the local secretary of state or only San Francisco one. I live in Washington state so Secretary of State Washington ?
Second, does the people in India give trouble and ask so many questions with the GPA ?
Appreciate if you can send email to me at farooqjeewani@gmail.com
1. I think you can do it at any secretary of state
2. Not sure. Have never done GPA in India
Recently I have received the POA from my parents. As you said I am gone paste my photo and get the sign from two of the witness with address at last page.
My doubts here:
1.The POA which sent by my parents doesn’t have any separate column for witness sign and address,It has only my sign column. What should I do for that?
2.I am getting individual home at my home town with help of BANK loan(LIC), bank has given me separate POA to fill and get it attested from Indian embassy, So I need to get attested from Indian embassy for two POA?
3.General process is POA – Get notarized (with my photo and two witness sign) – Get it apostilled – Get it attested from Indian embassy. My understanding is correct na ?
1. If you have some whitespace, you can write "witness" and ask some one to sign it. Or you can attach a white page with witness signatures
2. My bank did not require attestation on their POA. If they asked for it, then you have to get it done
3. Yes
In the POA given by Bank has the photograph in front page as per your previous comments you said a part of notary stamp should sealed in the photograph right ? can you guide me on this, should i get the seal on front page as well? . Highly appreciated!!!
One question:
How much time it takes to get the miscellaneous doc attested.lets say If i reach Indian consulate by 8:30 Am and submit the documents. How much time it takes to attested. what is time window i should wait ? Need this info as soon as possible. Depend upon your reply i will plan my trip.
Your blog is highly useful for novice people like me :)
Quick question, do I need to paste photograph of POA (my father in my case) before I go to Indian Consulate ?
Thanks
Alok
best.
I tried searching but could not find answer, can you please answer this for me.
1. Do we need to notarize photocopies of passport, visa, Driving License also ?
2. If yes for above, notarize is $10 per page, it will be approx $100 + ?
Thanks
Thanks for the details...
I am applying for home loan in india and for that i need to notarized the GPA.
My question is for house loan purpose GPA also needs to be apostilled or i can
directly go to embassy for notarization.
Regards
Avinash
do witnesses need to sign in each page of POA ? or siging in last page will be sufficient?
Also what are the documemts do we need before going for apostilling ?
Thanks again!
And all the payment that u did, $20, and then $10 etc.. did u do it by cash ??
Please let me know
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